My opinion of the people who can give good games

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Dan wrote:And imo Bones is being over rated a little bit imo kazter and wolvy are better players than bones
Wait, you talking about Middle??? I would not even consider myself as equal to BONES in Liga, if you think I'm better then I'd state you have not seen much of BONES. I'm 100% certain he beat me in experience/micro/strategy/game sense/when to attack/how to attack/understanding of builds/mechanics... List goes on.

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Interesting post for sure. Good thing you're enjoying your life, but it seems to me that for some reason you think it's either 100% gamer or 100% other things. EE is a game, I'm not gonna speak on behalf of everyone but I play first and formost for fun, and i think most people here do aswell. It's not like since you have a name and reputation that you HAVE to be on top of your game to play.. Come play a couple of games a week for fun, and enjoy the game for what it really is. A (frickin awesome) game.
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ApolloN wrote:I haven't played ee since 2 years seriously. What people forget is, that I beat in my prime team every good liga player( sam, dave, bones, insane, myst, splinter) in 95% of the games without trouble, except krass and goldeneye.
To be honest Wolvy we have played about 10 games in the last 3 years. Krass and Dave can confirm: I would challenge you every day, and after 6 months I'd have the chance to play 2 or 3 games.
Again, Dave prior to his comeback in 2010 (2008) was ridicolously bad at liga, his improvement took place just in the last few years. Yet again, the only time you have played Dave in the last 3 years, you lost.

Your argument just flaws from the start ..... look at the % you are giving lol...
ApolloN wrote:I played ras only 1 time and I hardly won.
LOOL

Do you even think before typying?

You have played me about 10 games in the last 3 years. And you have only played ras ONCE.
And you have hardly observed me play. Yet you start talking as if you actually knew something ..lol...
ApolloN wrote:I have better things to do, im enjoying my life with my friends, women and University. You should do the same and you will learn, that ee is worthless and not important. The social life is that life, which gives you amazing feelings, luck and satisfaction.
Another of the infinite number of the "busy chatting with cute girl on msn" Wolvy's quotes that have prevented us to play 1v1s in the last years xD
I'm glad the strength of the women's meetings you've been having has given you the compulsory impulse to share that with us whenever you start a conversation :roll:

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ApolloN wrote:I have better things to do, im enjoying my life with my friends, women and University. You should do the same and you will learn, that ee is worthless and not important. The social life is that life, which gives you amazing feelings, luck and satisfaction.
Ill admit that's one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum :D You're cute wolvy :)
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Samuel wrote:
[-Ts-] Tricky wrote:think ghost means 2001 to 2005-06 liga players what aint been said
Then I'm sure he has a name in mind.

Because it would be too easy to say "ye some players back then were better" and then not mention any name.

And along with the names, a description of their abilities and their analysis ... since he's the one who claims people need to be qualified enough to speak about what they really know about .... I want to know how much he really knows about the players he is going to mention.
I don't have time to write an essay on each of EE's 1000 greatest players. I will say that you guys have already named most of the people, but your analysis and rankings are wrong because you didn't consider the unmentioned greats from years before that they played against. I'm not necessarily saying that the unmentioned players are "so much better" than the ones mentioned (it's still a possibility, never thought about it much).

You could argue that players are supposed to only get better; but honestly the people that wtf pwned games back in the day, against much tougher competition, are the ones that really don't care all that much now.

People started mentioning reputation, and if you're going to consider it then it should be fully considered. That's where I'm saying a lot of you aren't qualified. It's sad to see even some of you veteran players call them by their newer aliases, instead of the names that they were most known by.
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Ill admit that's one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum :D You're cute wolvy :)
Yeah, where would a topic full of ego and penis measuring over a game be without Wolvy?

I was reading though his post and doing a typical Wolvy checklist

(1) When I tried... - check
(2) Insults and verbal jabs - check
(3) I could beat everyone if I practiced -- check
(4) I'm awesome at life, you need to know this for some reason -- check

It is like listening to him after a game.
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why u all dont accept it , its a game for fun, it is not like chess, maybe u win , or not, map, etc, believe me fun is all in this game, drink tea caffe or beer and enjoy it

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Yo baby face :) no team games in liga no more wolvy atm all 1v1s :( but i think your fat ass should come and play some 2v2s with me!
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[-Ts-] Tricky wrote:Yo baby face :) no team games in liga no more wolvy atm all 1v1s :( but i think your fat ass should come and play some 2v2s with me!
No team games is caused by players who want to observe 1v1's....

Sometimes you host a 1v1 room, no one joins for hours... Sometimes you host a 1v1, and it's full with observers..
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Hmm wolvys list looks realistic too in my opinion ill have to agree with his top three players.. But anyway EE is not really alive anymore and it has not been for the past 2 years :/ But Krass Goldy and Ras looks like the consistent best three players ee gave us
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One v Ones have killed the save EE lobby thats why all the previous people such as LayZ and Justice people who hosted those packed mid SH games are now on GR... But thats a whoooooole different topic
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I still wonder why people play in gameranger, no offense but lets look at gameranger from a racist point of view (where my goal is not to offend people.). People with bad internet (Which are most commonly people from Mexico, South America, Spain and India.) and/or the intention to press "ALT F4" on loss should play there.... -_- lol.

So please non lagging people, stop wasting your time on gameranger and get your ass back on save-ee, even tho pressing the patch button or reading the help tab is too hard... (or just lazyness.)
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Dan wrote:Hmm wolvys list looks realistic too in my opinion ill have to agree with his top three players.. But anyway EE is not really alive anymore and it has not been for the past 2 years :/ But Krass Goldy and Ras looks like the consistent best three players ee gave us
We are not talking about consistency, we are talking about who's been better overall, and even if its "only" for 3 years, that still needs to be considered.

Your ranking is purely based on reputation. The only player you know enough to put in that rank is Krass (even though Goldeneye is really number 2).

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Ghost wrote:I don't have time to write an essay on each of EE's 1000 greatest players.
Yet you have time to write such a post. Nobody is asking you to write an essay, but a post just as long as the one you've just made would be required.
It's not like you can come here and say "there were better players", then just backing with a "I don't have time to say who they are" and still claim you are right. That's too easy.
Ghost wrote:I will say that you guys have already named most of the people, but your analysis and rankings are wrong because you didn't consider the unmentioned greats from years before that they played against. I'm not necessarily saying that the unmentioned players are "so much better" than the ones mentioned (it's still a possibility, never thought about it much).
Then I would like to ask you: are you sure you know enough the current players that have been mentioned so far? Do you know what strategies I use and how I carry them out? Do you know KrasS's, Goldi's, Splinter's? You don't.
That makes you pretty unqualified to judge on these players' abilities, you may be good enough to potentially say your word, but the fact that you hardly know what strategies we mostly use makes you unqualified to do that.
Ghost wrote:You could argue that players are supposed to only get better; but honestly the people that wtf pwned games back in the day, against much tougher competition, are the ones that really don't care all that much now.

People started mentioning reputation, and if you're going to consider it then it should be fully considered. That's where I'm saying a lot of you aren't qualified. It's sad to see even some of you veteran players call them by their newer aliases, instead of the names that they were most known by.
Because you are qualified Ghost? ( please don't take this in an offensive way ;) )
Tell me what strategies Splinter would play at Reinaissance to Indy. It doesn't require an essay, all you need is 2 words. And tell me what Goldi would do at Stone age and Copper age. And tell me what I do at Nano age. Or tell me in 2 words how DavE would play Liga 1v1.
And don't say that you can't be arsed doing it, because this is what this topic is about.

The true fact is, that you know nothing about the following players, simply because you were not involved in the 1v1 circle. And there's nothing to be ashamed about lol, it's easy: as you were not involved, you can't know most of the recent player's developments lol

Which makes you less qualified than most of the players here (at least on new players), who have actually played against most of the players mentioned here in true 1v1s.

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It's sad to see even some of you veteran players call them by their newer aliases, instead of the names that they were most known by.
Are u referring to bones?

@ zeke: I've always had a hard time placing lavanger in anything but mod dm cause he had such a range of names, he was even in heros at one point (aoc division). But he was very strong in mod. Kirac is a very good allsett player but I'd still pick ras above him.
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His worst sett was probably mod dm -- maybe liga. He was top notch at mod tl and mid sh eec or aoc beating pretty much everyone he played regularly.
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