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Captain Nemo wrote:enigma's strategy was mostly going swords with x bows and siege. Easially defeated with ca+balli or knights+balli but a big loss with swords. I do doubt most of them could withstand a good swordslut. You wouldn't kill them instantly but you could mass much quicker, get a fast hero and own them that way. Not saying it'd work every time tho.

BC the time u describe u came to aoc is pretty much same as I, maybe I was a couple of months later. But I played with enigma, icestorm etc a few games. You're better off massing swords with trebs on wing and ca with balli in pocket most of the time, but many strats can work out.

Swords + Trebs > Ca + Balli.

Nemo I honestly dont remember you playing AoC when me and calv were playing. I could be wrong, but i can honestly say the games with baron, promethus, pyro, buttfreek, engima, icestorm ect ect you werent in. Sorry bro. I could be wrong, calv confirm or deny my statement.

Nemo never played with AoC experts.

Yeah I figured as much.

I never said I played much, due to my different timezone it was very limited but I did play games with some of the names in mention there. I don't remember playing vs calv either. Not saying I was ever one of the mid sh gang, but I tried it.

sword+trebs own it in very late game, but it takes some time to get the trebs going cause u have to swap ress. Ca+balli with a hero and zeus is VERY strong with decent micro.

lol wut how did i miss this.

Also, Balli and trebs can both be very effective late game supplements to your army, the question of which is better is really decided by pop. Swords + trebs is not that great with 178 pop because you simply can't make enough siege for it to be really overpowering, even if you pull off a boom with treb attack/range/fire rate in civ. Ballistas are much more powerful in low pop games obviously because of area damage and smaller enemy forces to contend with.

High pop games, trebs become alot more effective because once you have 30-40+ the lack of area damage isn't that big of an issue, you can micro large numbers of enemy balli from outside their range and micro enemy heroes - and you can remove multiple enemy production buildings in seconds.

yeah u missed it... sorry

Looks like i missed this too. Anyway i agree that the great aoc'ers who used expan could hold a slut civ. If you play an expan civ like a slut you can almost keep pace with amount of swords in early game... plus with morale range as well as towers... you can hold easily enough until your expansionism really pays off. I played back with all those players mentioned even though i wasn't good compared to them back then.

Expan can hold slut no doubt if you're good at it and arent playing too greedy.
The crap cobra was talking about with Engima is just bullshit.
Also I wud never play expan like a slut civ. MAX 9 on iron when I do Lion's sword civ that Omega told me about (with hunt in it). Playing expan civ agressively without h&f is just stupid imo.

Only a retard with expan civ would lose to a slut civ, otherwise you might just suck with expan so like dont use it ever again plz

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DrHouseMd wrote:I dont think anyone from that era is around still, moslty because of the truely abusive mods and admins.

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Vanguard middle 4v4's. And then Hobojoe introduced pf pocket sword, which basically ruined aoc middle.

I don't play mid sh alot but I have never seen anyone use pf swords in pocket.

Elite wrote:Vanguard middle 4v4's. And then Hobojoe introduced pf pocket sword, which basically ruined aoc middle.

I'm prolly far over my head here but I'd imagine "pf sword on pocket" did nothing to the Mid Sh scene since it has a 1/50 win ratio over CA-pocket. Not to mention when wing or pocket goes knights.