Captain Nemo wrote:Allright read it, nothing surprising there. Yet it states a dose of 250-500 rads will kill u in like 7 weeks and according to your map the entire yellow area is "750 rads". What kind of concentration is that?
And Im still counting on u to find a deathcount of the damage from the Fukushima for me (those who died from radiation).
Seriously, wtf am I reading here. "Radiation kills cells" "dose of 250-500 rads"
Wtf are you guys talking about, radiation doesn't actually exist in the physical world. It's more of a concept. Heat is a type of radiation, hence, why 'heat' doesn't technically exist. We do observe the effects of heat transfer from temperature rises/falls until thermal equilibrium is reached though. But 'heat' is just a form of energy transfer (radiation).
Basically what you guys just said was 'the way energy is transfered can kill you'. Which means absolutely nothing.
But to answer your question, "750 rads". What kind of concentration is that? I don't know, a 'rad' isn't a unit of measurement. Unless a 'rad' is kind of like what they do for hurricans and shit, "category 5" etc, which I think is just a ballpark range of what the wind speed is, and some other factors. They don't say what they are though.[/quote]
When u say energy transferred do u mean from one place to another? Cause from what I can read here u don't mean from one form to another which would normally be the thing u mean when u say energy transfer. A stone flying through the air is radiation too then? It meets your requirements and if it hits u it will cause alot of damage. As with radiation if it hits you the energy it has will hit you and depending on the amount of energy it can damage you.
As for the stuff you said with heat from the vent you recieve as "hot" or something like that Im not sure u get what heat is. As you describe heat as something that is transferred in the air and hotness as something u feel well no its actually the same its the speed of molecules's movements. The molekyles outside your body move faster than yours in the body vibrate/"swim" and thus they "push" your molekyles in the body to vibrate more and hence raising the temperature there. As you may know it's hard for "flying molecules" (gas form) to do much with vibrating ones or liquid which is why the heat capacity of gas isn't very high. If you're thrown into boiling water the damage would be much more catastrocfic.
Ionizing radiation is not the same as heat, and causes different type of damage if u're exposed to high levels of it. Cell death from ionizing radiation may not even be the worst at least on a long term scale as cell mutation can cause cancer which might be a bigger concern to you.
My point in this fukushima discussion is though, how big a disaster was it really?[/quote]
Actually, when you throw a rock, radiation does occur in the process. The rock changes in temperature because of heat transfer from the friction in the air/air resistance. And yes, even your example of the rock flying though the air has energy, everything has energy. The flying rock is an example of kinetic energy and potential energy, when the stone hits someone elses body, some of its energy is transferred to that person via. But the physical process of the stone flying through the air is not energy transfer in itself, but how the rock interacts with things outside it's system is an example of energy transfer.
You are wrong on what you said about heat too. I pulled out my old thermodynamics book just for you bro.
Heat is Not a form of energy. The word heat is one of the most misused words in our popular language. Heat is a method of transferring energy, not a form of storing energy. Therefore, phrases such as heat content, the heat of the summer, and the heat escaped all represent uses of this word that are inconsistent with the physics definition of heat"
You keep saying heat is SOMETHING transferred. You have to get it in your mind that heat DOESN'T EXIST. And the 'speed of molecules's movements' is actually called temperature (this is pretty general tho, I wouldn't say that's all it is, but for the purpose of this discussion, it will stand) It's not the same thing as heat.
And yes it is pretty basic with temp.
