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Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:11 pm
by MintberryCrunch!
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-6776c740.html is the save file.

Today we had a 4v4 1 way game. I dropped bc dexter began to glitch wall on the sea with his prophet. I saw this and told him not to do it. He contested that he didn't jump the wall and that he had landed outside of the wall and quaked from there. As you can see, there is NO WHERE FOR HIM TO LAND OUTSIDE OF THE WALL. The entire cliffline is unlandable. You are free to test this from the save.

Here is conversation from lobby after:

[16:45:58] dexter: i can of course land with pro
[16:46:00] MintberryCrunch!: i dont care about win loss
[16:46:07] MintberryCrunch!: i care abotu peoeple playing like cheaters
[16:46:08] dexter: you simply noob
[16:46:08] MintberryCrunch!: u didnt land with pro
[16:46:10] MintberryCrunch!: u wall jumped pro
[16:46:14] MintberryCrunch!: u jumped over a wall with your pro
[16:46:16] jimboslice75: Is that the glitch where units appear over the wall?
[16:46:17] [GRâ„¢]_ComBatKiLLeR: well fine people that want to play w/ u anymore for ruin game
[16:46:17] dexter: i can land
[16:46:19] MintberryCrunch!: you did not land
[16:46:22] MintberryCrunch!: you JUMPED OVER WALL


He denies it too but this save has proof that only way to land that side of the map was to jump over the wall, which he did with his prophet and admitted to landing, but denies glitching the sea wall, claiming he landed no the cliff.

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:15 pm
by MintberryCrunch!
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Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:17 pm
by MintberryCrunch!
If you click on the above image it shows the full screen shot, for some reason the embed shows a bit cuttoff til u click on it.

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:29 pm
by MintberryCrunch!
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Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:50 pm
by Arntzen
I thought this was a known bug. You see every islandplayer/good pockets wall the parts that can be "jumped over" better. It's a simple fix. I wouldn't call it cheating for dexter to take advantage of your stupid wall.
1 more wall on top and you would be safe.

Anyway, that's my opinion on the matter.

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:12 pm
by simple_faith
??? i just usually drop or alt f4 if any one ever does such a niggerous acts agaisnt my wall. idk why ur crying like a bitch its not bannable.

[05:25:12] Jossos: u guys realise it's fred lagging, right?
[05:25:27] fred-flint333: fred says no blue snail just orange
[05:25:41] fred-flint333: fred tells jossos not to blame fred for jossos losing....thanks

^lmfao

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:53 pm
by Captain Nemo
Unlisted glitch/bug. We need to address this bug and list it in either legal or illegal glitches...

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:45 pm
by simple_faith
thats like saying we should make group speed illegal or legal, or mine wall. da hoster has to make da rules not da admins and mods sorry. dem fishes

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:02 am
by Captain Nemo
Group speed is listed in the legal glitches...

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:13 am
by [-Ts-] Tricky
tbh i wouldnt class dexter as a cheater for doing something like that one time out of 50 p2n games in a month lol this is kinda sad report in my eyes dexter is one of the few p2n players who i can say is a nice player to play with who says gg im not doing anything about this if omega or ghost wants to fair enough but i think its kinda stupid report soon we will have reports of me making snipers in gren wars and kill peoples hunt in p2n with tower ;o

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:24 am
by Captain Nemo
Dexter wont be banned or anything for this case as the glitch isn't listed. We will discuss the legality of the glitch in mod section and list it in legal or illegal asap.

Feel free to share your opinion on the matter, it will be taken into account!

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:57 pm
by Lancelot5
Its Actually your fault Mintberry the bug is known and you simply can fix it by building better walls. I remember that i have used that vs u and dexter too and you both cry like little babys while its just your guys fault. What i dont understand is why dexter use that little advantage too althought he flamed me before about that i have used it against him. Same goes for Badaboum.... . I dont know why some players need to act like that.
Captain Nemo wrote:We will discuss the legality of the glitch in mod section and list it in legal or illegal
For me its no glitch cause u can simply avoid it by a better placement of walls.

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:39 pm
by Omega
Lancelot, I agree it shouldn't be illegal. It's certainly a glitch, though.

Here's what I said in the moderators section (slightly paraphrased):
It's a well-known glitch, very easy to predict where it can occur, very easy to prevent from the perspective of an opponent, and fairly easy to commit accidentally. Making it an illegal glitch would be a bad idea.

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:04 pm
by Black Star
1.Tricky is right, dex is a really nice player and this report is srsly tnt style.

2.I guess if i want to land i dont want to check everytime if you can still build a wall there or not like i have the time in game, you click unload and see if it works, cause there are pretty equal situations in which you can land wihtout glitch. Just make better walls.

Re: Dexter cheating and denying it.

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:19 pm
by MintberryCrunch!
I wasn't seeking punishment for dexter. After the game, he denied that he wall jumped and I wanted to prove it to him. He knows it's frowned upon. When people do it to him he throws up arms as well. It is definitely not an accepted glitch in pre and when someone does it, the game usually revolts against them.

In this situation everyone had said Dexter didn't wall jump and he landed outside the wall and quaked. I made this post to show that he lied when he said he didn't do it and he admitted he made a mistake.

He apologized for doing it bc it is not something he would normally do and we dropped it.