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Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:53 am
by Arntzen
bestofee.de.tl/
Espay hosting, just found out today. All join the awesomeness!
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:00 am
by Shanghai
I'm in. So is Tex.
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:54 am
by Wizo
This is eec I guess?
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:56 am
by Arntzen
eec yeah
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:50 pm
by Texas Ranger
ignore post #2
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:36 pm
by Eisregen
aoc and me play.
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:40 pm
by Arntzen
I will ask espay.
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:20 am
by Manni
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Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:12 pm
by lightnessking.
Manni wrote:@ Espay
If you organise such a big tourney (16 two-player teams) you need to take that serious. Otherwise Espay-tournies aren`t taken serious anymore after this fail.
- Be sure that you have time at the day you announce as tourney date. The tourney must have priority to a reallife event cause you are the organisor of a big tourney.
- Fix the daytime cause not everybody wants to play at each daytime.
- Update your rules button on your webside if needed.
- Tell on your webside that it is EEC cause on Save-EE it is not self-understanding that tournies are made on EEC.
- Tell how the tourney works: which rounds are best of three, how long takes the first round, if there need to be tourney mods as hosts.
- Add the Quarter Final cause with 16 start teams you gonna need it.
Or just play and let him figure it out himself, you'll hear who won after the matches LOL.
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:38 pm
by Texas Ranger
I'd just like to throw in that a 2v2 mid tourney on eec makes no sense. Expansionism is very difficult to use on a 2v2 small map, and if you're worried about other annoying powers like pathfinding (which shouldn't really be a problem anyway) then you can simply forbid them. This just limits available strats and players.
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:45 pm
by Arntzen
I don't really care of aoc or eec tbh. If we get enough players for eec than I'll be just as happy as if it were aoc.
Also idno why mid experts from aoc can't (refuses to) play on eec...
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:18 pm
by Texas Ranger
How do you still not get it? It's because going from AoC to eec prevents expansionism, which is in a lot of strats. Going from eec to AoC, however, costs nothing. Rushing is still the dominant strat. That's why it makes absolutely no sense to do eec only for a tourney like this.
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:33 pm
by Captain Nemo
then make your own tourney? Espay made this for eec, thats it. Would make sense to play on aoc yes, but it does make more sense to play on eec. This is an attempt to attract GR players from GR to lobby by hosting their sett on the lobby so they can all come here and play. Very smart. Would not work if it was aoc.
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:44 pm
by Omega
They can't play in an expansionism-free metagame, or don't want to play in such a metagame.
There really isn't much difference between the two. The metagame in each is very slightly different. The difference that prevents most AoC players from going over is that they can't rush for shit, and/or they can't build an economy if they pull off a decent rush, and they don't want to learn how. A very few AoC players can, but just prefer to play with expansionism anyway.
Really, the points of the game that make the game fun are exactly the same between both.
I personally prefer EEC very slightly to AoC. The only reason for this preference is that the scroll speed on AoC is a piece of shit. If they both had the same range of allowable scroll speeds, I wouldn't care one way or the other as far as mid is concerned.
Re: Middle 2v2 tourny
Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:33 pm
by simple_faith
dang omega with da insults