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Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:53 am
by X warrior411
1. Right now, Mid SH
2. -¤«Ģuąяdiลиŝ»¤-†•X Wąяяιǿя411 •†-edit- X Warrior411 (quit clan a few minutes ago)
3. Played on the old lobby for about 3 years but lost my touch...
4. I've mainly played and designed scens so I haven't played any real sets for awhile (used to pwn on the old lobby, which was full of noobs)
5. Eastern Standard Time, New Jersey,United States 1:4
6. I play mostly at 3:00 PM - 11:00 PM and later on weekends (I usually keep the lobby open when doing other stuff)
7. I'm pretty good at playing late into the game but I usually die from rush.

I requested training before but never got it (my fault)

What I plan to do is to first master Mid SH, then move on to things like Pre to Space/Nano and then to other setts.

But for now I need to learn the roots of EE, which at right now is Mid SH, since rush sorta happens in some form in every sett.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:06 am
by taco
i refuse to train u, however if u really are looking to improve ur game i suggest u read midsh civs. and make sure they are fairly basic. i also posted the 1st 6 or so f11 of each civ. the general concept after that is keep booming/popping mines/attacking/countering. i think u are capable of improving ur own game dramatically, if u manage to do all these things with some degree of speed.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:15 am
by Omega
In addition to training, I'd suggest you check out:
http://save-ee.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=868
and
http://save-ee.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=873

It is my opinion that the very best way to learn to survive a rush is to learn to rush well yourself. Once you can do that, just try your rush on experienced players and see what they do against it; by doing this, you not only learn a valuable skill (how to rush), but how to not die to a rush, as well as the strengths and limitations of rushing.

Another valuable thing you learn is the goals and objectives of someone who is rushing you. If you know these, you know what you don't want the person who's rushing you to accomplish. A lot of players when rushed can initially fend it off, but do it in a manner that gives the person rushing exactly what they wanted--a large advantage they can leverage to win the game.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:56 pm
by X warrior411
practiced on the computer to start up a base, I got 12 swords at FF11 11 minutes (without a civ, I didn't get one at the time)

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:55 pm
by White Fang
woot thats 3 times better than my liga start ._.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:56 pm
by taco
without a civ is useless, try getting 60 by about 10f11, with about 35-40 cits. should b about the 100 mark at 10f11 with fairly upped swords

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:15 pm
by White Fang
D: but taco thats over 9000!!! nah im jk but that sounds hard o_O i can only get 51 ._. with 10 ups but then again your teh pro taco >.<

edit: my second try i got 51 again and i only had 6 ups ._. O_Q <--sadness

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:52 pm
by Omega
X warrior411 wrote:practiced on the computer to start up a base, I got 12 swords at FF11 11 minutes (without a civ, I didn't get one at the time)
I'd really suggest just looking at the first link I sent, using that civilization, and build order, and just repeating over and over again until you can attain the needed speed to get 12 swords at 3 f11, and then I'd work on managing your shit up till 10 f11 as well as increasing your starting speed so you can consistently get 15 at 3 f11 simultaneously.

Even without a civilization, 12 swords at 11 f11 is very, very, very slow. However, since you'll never be playing without a civ, use one.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:11 pm
by PeLlE
12 swords at f11 3 is the minimum for a good sword start ;) It mostly is 15. Without this minimum amount of swords you'll not be able to defend or to rush byself. ANd while training I also suggest that you don't forget to tower up as fast as possible

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:21 am
by peow130
Also, knights bring down the best of players (Ghost).

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:23 am
by Ghost
They bring down the best of players when that player goes swords AND their pocket is noob and also goes swords and that player says fuck this shit and resigns when he finds out he's up against knights.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:15 pm
by peow130
Ghost wrote:They bring down the best of players when that player goes swords AND their pocket is noob and also goes swords and that player says fuck this shit and resigns when he finds out he's up against knights.
excuses excuses.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:11 pm
by White Fang
welp you can sacrifice your base :P like let them attack u and have all your swordys pulled out next to their base and when they attack u hits em ._.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:26 pm
by taco
if some1 uses swords in pocket. it only works if they 1. wall and 2. use pathfinding and 3. focus 100% on ecoing.
knights is horrible. like absolutly horrible for 1v1s and 2v2s. they only gain power as there is less pop.

Re: Requesting training for Middle

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:50 am
by Hello0
best training is playing ._.

playing much( also if u lose every game) + the advices by omega and taco etc = good gamer :P